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Manga RF saga and power levels
Topic Started: Dec 1 2016, 05:20 PM (6,391 Views)
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Ssj3vegito96
Dec 6 2016, 04:58 AM
Idk what's so hard to understand. In the anime goku clearly absorbs it and his base power eventually becomes stronger than ssjg. This goes well with toriyama's interview. If goku absorbs the power level from ssjg then there's no reason to use the form. The manga's events contradict this completely. He actually uses ssjg as a form beyond ssj3 to knock out trunks and against hit. If he absorbed ssjg power level into base then he wouldn't need to do that. It's a simple concept. He didn't absorb the forms power he just kept the form itself. Don't overthink it

That scene with the ssjg silhouette behind goku didn't even happen in the dragon ball super manga. That was a promo for RF MOVIE. It applies to those rules. Goku absorbed ssjg in the movies so that scene worked. But clearly base goku cannot be as strong as ssjg in the DBS manga
You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

The only thing that the interview refers to is the ritual. He doesn't need to use the ritual to use the power of SSJG. It doesn't say that SSJG's power was transferred to his base form. No source even remotely hints at that, so the only problem here would be your comprehension. We know that isn't the case since base Goku has no god ki. Stop repeating the same nonsense like a broken record.

Goku surpassing his previous SSJG powerlevel in base is completely irrelevant. Any Saiyan could theoretically surpass their previous SSJ forms in base with enough training.

There are no "rules". No clue whatsoever what you're babbling about. The only one's making all these pointless distinctions are fans, not anyone who is actually in a position to have a say like Toei or Toyotaro.
Toyotaro's version of events have Goku reaching his previous SSJG level by training just like every other version does, hence there being no difference as far between any of the versions as far as power is concerned. Nothing more, nothing less. Doesn't matter if it wasn't in the actual Super manga.
The RF manga being a promo for the movie means nothing from a logical standpoint. Not like you could even think about using this logic since the manga is promotional material for the anime, therefore would follow the same rules by your own logic.
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Dec 1 2016, 05:20 PM
My thoughts on how it went down

Correct me if I'm wrong on any of this but this is what I think we know
-It took ssjb to fight golden Frieza. That's what the narrator said
-based on goku vs frost there isn't a godly gap between fourth and fifth forms. That means if goku fought fourth form Frieza like in the anime and movie he had to have fought him as a ssjg. Basically what that means is that there isn't a gigantic gap between ssjg and ssjb. We learned something
-there's an 80x gap between third and fourth form Frieza according to his namek power levels. Idk how that helps but maybe you guys can think of something with it
If you ask me, I think more or less, final form Frost and Frieza are probably of similar power. Goku never once said or implied he's weaker. At most, he said if he'd trained, he be stronger or something like Frieza did.

Goku probably used Super Saiyan too, and then Blue.
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My thoughts on how it went down

Correct me if I'm wrong on any of this but this is what I think we know
-It took ssjb to fight golden Frieza. That's what the narrator said
-based on goku vs frost there isn't a godly gap between fourth and fifth forms. That means if goku fought fourth form Frieza like in the anime and movie he had to have fought him as a ssjg. Basically what that means is that there isn't a gigantic gap between ssjg and ssjb. We learned something
-there's an 80x gap between third and fourth form Frieza according to his namek power levels. Idk how that helps but maybe you guys can think of something with it
If you ask me, I think more or less, final form Frost and Frieza are probably of similar power. Goku never once said or implied he's weaker. At most, he said if he'd trained, he be stronger or something like Frieza did.

Goku probably used Super Saiyan too, and then Blue.
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